*spotting Fakes*

VickyT · 12-17-2007, 11:31 PM

Hey girls,
Not sure if there's a thread out there already about this but if there is it should be made sticky!

This thread is going to be aimed at helping some of the girls (especially the younger shoppers) [and guys i guess?] expose and learn how to avoid FAKES while shopping online and in store.

The truth is, there is nothing that irritates me more than a girl who "loves her brands" but can't tell a fake from an authentic. I'm not talking about AAA quality stuff here - Some of the stuff sold in Vancouver is flat out CRAP and should be exposed for what it is!

EXPERIENCED SHOPPERS - POST YOUR ADVICE ON SPOTTING FAKES AND ANY KNOWN STORES THAT SELL FAKES

Some of the brands often faked and of course hot in the lower mainland....

Abercrombie and Fitch
Rock and Republic
True Religion
Ed Hardy
Juicy Couture
DKNY (Why is this even faked?)
LV + Chanel + Other High Street Brands [that just cannot be real on a 14 year old girl.

]

POST YOUR EXPERIENCES / EXPERTISE IN SPOTTING FAKES

Stores/Malls/Etc that very possibly sell sketch items... Thank you rumor-mill! send me a PM if you want to add stores/malls/whatever to this list!

Richmond -
Richmond Centre
Aberdeen
Yaohan
Parker Place

Burnaby/New West -
Metrotown
Oakridge
Crystal Mall

Downtown Vancouver -

PM me to add brands/stores/malls/whatever to this list. I will edit in a symbol of some sort to indicate that one of you has written a mini-guide about the brands listed above.

VickyT · 12-18-2007, 12:13 AM

Here's a few simple tips to start this thread off. I apologize, this is neither concise nor super informative but just a starting post :)

Rule of thumb! Don't buy from some pimply sleazebag that goes to your highschool and claims he sells from "wholesale" or that his "friend" buys them from the store with employee/manager discounts and THATS how he knows theyre authentic.

Other Giveaways:
1. Overproduction of an obviously popular item
Think... How many Juicy Royalty sweat suits have you seen? [click]This style has been out of production for AT LEAST 2.5 years. WHY would anyone be able to get their hands on a "New" "Authentic" "Never been Worn" pair and sell it reasonably priced?? Another more recent example R&R Crowns. [click] I've seen these being sold in tiny little hole in the wall stores in the MASS. It's just dumb.

Popular Brands such as R&R and Juicy Couture give out CONTRACTS to stores that are allowed to sell them. Eg. a family of 3 stores can only sell R&R jeans at one of their three stores for reasons including supply and demand.

2. I know many a girl who has fallen for this one. Here's a clue - Brands that don't have their own stores obviously don't have employees who abuse their discounts.

My experience - a kid in Richmond sold "Authentic" Juicy Couture for semi-cheaper prices while I was still in highschool. I mentioned I didn't like the way "P&G" looked like on a pair of juicy pants (It happened to looked like "D&G" by the way it shaped over my butt :b) and he said "D&G makes JUICY". So obviously - if the seller is making crap up b/c he doesn't know crap about the brand... he's just a pawn of some guy from china selling fakes! He also said his friend worked at the Juicy store. Okay, I wasn't dumb enough to not know that ... (Minus one Juicy Outlet Store that I know of in NYC) JUICY HAS NONE OF ITS OWN STORES NOR ANY WHOLESALERS!! ps. This guy's name is Darren Lam and resides in Richmond. Total lying d-bag. I feel no shame for exposing his full name.

3. Poor Quality ___anything______. This in itself should scream fake. I mean poor quality packaging (eg. plastic wrapped handles) [click] or poorly shaped signature designs [click] A company that caters to the wealthy (or spoiled) would never cheap out on small things like packaging. Think about it! [click] Unusually poor zipper quality is also a dead giveaway.

4. Inconsistancy with sizes. Obvious sizing diferences - if you know you're a small in a certain brand and the M or L fits tight on you? Fake.

5. Inconsistancy with styles. If you're thinking of investing in a bag/article of clothing higher than your normal budget - RESEARCH IT FIRST. For example, Juicy Couture changed it's signature ending from "Love P&G" to "Love G&P" one season. Be aware of these changes so you don't fall for "Love R&R" or something random like that!

This has been said and said again but it is seriously such a simple but effective piece of advice... If it seems too good to be true, then it probably is!

My mindset when browsing for Juicy or other brands outside of absolutely trustworthy stores (eg. Nordstrom) is to assume everything is fake (until lots of scrutiny has proven otherwise) and ask myself honestly - would I pay this price for a fake item?

EBAY Juicy Fake guide I found useful when I was being a smart shopper aka skeptic.

[Juicy Bags] [More]

Obviously I was a Juicy fiend at some point in my life :D That's why almost every example is on Juicy. ha!

JU!CYY · 12-18-2007, 12:33 AM

JUICY BAGS

1. make sure the "J" stitching on the leather tags are very straight, and well defined...

2. all hardware and handles are always wrapped in juicy couture design tissue paper, like mentioned earlier, it's never wrapped in plastic

3. the inside compartments of the bags always have tiny sayings on it like

4. the leather juicy bags DO come w. a dust bag IF you buy them from the Juicy Couture store OR Juicy Outlets... if you purchase bags from nords, neiman they do not provide dust bags

canido · 12-18-2007, 01:27 AM

are the blue dustbags real for Juicy? Because I am seeing blue and pink.

JU!CYY · 12-18-2007, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canido

are the blue dustbags real for Juicy? Because I am seeing blue and pink.

I'm not too sure on that one.
But the ones i saw at the outlet was pink, and at the end of the draw strings were heart shaped leather juicy tabs...

Tigerette · 12-18-2007, 08:19 AM

An easy way of not buying fakes (which only works if you are looking right at the product, instead of pictures) is that is will be good quality and a good design. Designer brands become designer brands for a reason. They have something to offer. If you pick up an item and think "I know these are in right now, but the wash doesn't look all that impressive" or "I bet I could find something very similar in quality at half the price" then it is probably a fake product. Don't buy something because it is a brand name or because it is popular right now. If you are spending a ton of money on an item it should look amazing to you.

jazuresky · 12-18-2007, 11:07 PM

I would look up guides at ebay or ask people on AF because there are obviously more than just a paragraph or two to tell fakes and reals.

and if you wanna be expert at telling fakes...KNOW THE REAL ONES INSIDE OUT! :) that is the only way.

vannathai · 12-19-2007, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canido

are the blue dustbags real for Juicy? Because I am seeing blue and pink.

yup i went to the outlet and bought 2 bags one in a pink dustbag one in a blue.

babygrl · 12-19-2007, 12:45 PM

hey girls, just a quick question...
is there many fake uggs out there?

Tigerette · 12-19-2007, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babygrl

hey girls, just a quick question...
is there many fake uggs out there?

Tons! I see them everywear. They usually look nasty and slouchy.

babygrl · 12-19-2007, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigerette

Tons! I see them everywear. They usually look nasty and slouchy.

mmm, cus i bought a pair from a friend mine and he had like couple of pairs in stock also. the uggs i bought doesn't look nasty/slouchy at all but he sold it to me for such a cheap price so i'm kinda suspicious...

12-17-2007, 11:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
VickyT Mallvibes Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver POSTS: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Buy/Sell Rating: 0	*spotting Fakes* Hey girls, Not sure if there's a thread out there already about this but if there is it should be made sticky! This thread is going to be aimed at helping some of the girls (especially the younger shoppers) [and guys i guess?] expose and learn how to avoid FAKES while shopping online and in store. The truth is, there is nothing that irritates me more than a girl who "loves her brands" but can't tell a fake from an authentic. I'm not talking about AAA quality stuff here - Some of the stuff sold in Vancouver is flat out CRAP and should be exposed for what it is! EXPERIENCED SHOPPERS - POST YOUR ADVICE ON SPOTTING FAKES AND ANY KNOWN STORES THAT SELL FAKES Some of the brands often faked and of course hot in the lower mainland.... Abercrombie and Fitch Rock and Republic True Religion Ed Hardy Juicy Couture DKNY (Why is this even faked?) LV + Chanel + Other High Street Brands [that just cannot be real on a 14 year old girl. ] POST YOUR EXPERIENCES / EXPERTISE IN SPOTTING FAKES Stores/Malls/Etc that very possibly sell sketch items... Thank you rumor-mill! send me a PM if you want to add stores/malls/whatever to this list! Richmond - Richmond Centre Aberdeen Yaohan Parker Place Burnaby/New West - Metrotown Oakridge Crystal Mall Downtown Vancouver - PM me to add brands/stores/malls/whatever to this list. I will edit in a symbol of some sort to indicate that one of you has written a mini-guide about the brands listed above.

12-18-2007, 12:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
VickyT Mallvibes Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver POSTS: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Buy/Sell Rating: 0	Re: spotting Fakes Here's a few simple tips to start this thread off. I apologize, this is neither concise nor super informative but just a starting post :) Rule of thumb! Don't buy from some pimply sleazebag that goes to your highschool and claims he sells from "wholesale" or that his "friend" buys them from the store with employee/manager discounts and THATS how he knows theyre authentic. Other Giveaways: 1. Overproduction of an obviously popular item Think... How many Juicy Royalty sweat suits have you seen? [click]This style has been out of production for AT LEAST 2.5 years. WHY would anyone be able to get their hands on a "New" "Authentic" "Never been Worn" pair and sell it reasonably priced?? Another more recent example R&R Crowns. [click] I've seen these being sold in tiny little hole in the wall stores in the MASS. It's just dumb. Popular Brands such as R&R and Juicy Couture give out CONTRACTS to stores that are allowed to sell them. Eg. a family of 3 stores can only sell R&R jeans at one of their three stores for reasons including supply and demand. 2. I know many a girl who has fallen for this one. Here's a clue - Brands that don't have their own stores obviously don't have employees who abuse their discounts. My experience - a kid in Richmond sold "Authentic" Juicy Couture for semi-cheaper prices while I was still in highschool. I mentioned I didn't like the way "P&G" looked like on a pair of juicy pants (It happened to looked like "D&G" by the way it shaped over my butt :b) and he said "D&G makes JUICY". So obviously - if the seller is making crap up b/c he doesn't know crap about the brand... he's just a pawn of some guy from china selling fakes! He also said his friend worked at the Juicy store. Okay, I wasn't dumb enough to not know that ... (Minus one Juicy Outlet Store that I know of in NYC) JUICY HAS NONE OF ITS OWN STORES NOR ANY WHOLESALERS!! ps. This guy's name is Darren Lam and resides in Richmond. Total lying d-bag. I feel no shame for exposing his full name. 3. Poor Quality ___anything______. This in itself should scream fake. I mean poor quality packaging (eg. plastic wrapped handles) [click] or poorly shaped signature designs [click] A company that caters to the wealthy (or spoiled) would never cheap out on small things like packaging. Think about it! [click] Unusually poor zipper quality is also a dead giveaway. 4. Inconsistancy with sizes. Obvious sizing diferences - if you know you're a small in a certain brand and the M or L fits tight on you? Fake. 5. Inconsistancy with styles. If you're thinking of investing in a bag/article of clothing higher than your normal budget - RESEARCH IT FIRST. For example, Juicy Couture changed it's signature ending from "Love P&G" to "Love G&P" one season. Be aware of these changes so you don't fall for "Love R&R" or something random like that! This has been said and said again but it is seriously such a simple but effective piece of advice... If it seems too good to be true, then it probably is! My mindset when browsing for Juicy or other brands outside of absolutely trustworthy stores (eg. Nordstrom) is to assume everything is fake (until lots of scrutiny has proven otherwise) and ask myself honestly - would I pay this price for a fake item? EBAY Juicy Fake guide I found useful when I was being a smart shopper aka skeptic. [Juicy Bags] [More] Obviously I was a Juicy fiend at some point in my life :D That's why almost every example is on Juicy. ha!

12-18-2007, 12:33 AM	#3 (permalink)
JU!CYY Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver POSTS: 1,264 Thanks: 13 Thanked 51 Times in 35 Posts Buy/Sell Rating: 2	Re: spotting Fakes JUICY BAGS 1. make sure the "J" stitching on the leather tags are very straight, and well defined... 2. all hardware and handles are always wrapped in juicy couture design tissue paper, like mentioned earlier, it's never wrapped in plastic 3. the inside compartments of the bags always have tiny sayings on it like 4. the leather juicy bags DO come w. a dust bag IF you buy them from the Juicy Couture store OR Juicy Outlets... if you purchase bags from nords, neiman they do not provide dust bags

12-18-2007, 01:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
canido Mallvibes Member Join Date: Dec 2005 POSTS: 528 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Buy/Sell Rating: 2	Re: spotting Fakes are the blue dustbags real for Juicy? Because I am seeing blue and pink.

12-18-2007, 08:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tigerette Mallvibes Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Vancouver POSTS: 896 Thanks: 21 Thanked 21 Times in 18 Posts Buy/Sell Rating: 0	Re: spotting Fakes An easy way of not buying fakes (which only works if you are looking right at the product, instead of pictures) is that is will be good quality and a good design. Designer brands become designer brands for a reason. They have something to offer. If you pick up an item and think "I know these are in right now, but the wash doesn't look all that impressive" or "I bet I could find something very similar in quality at half the price" then it is probably a fake product. Don't buy something because it is a brand name or because it is popular right now. If you are spending a ton of money on an item it should look amazing to you.

12-18-2007, 11:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
jazuresky Mallvibes Member Join Date: Oct 2006 POSTS: 1,025 Thanks: 16 Thanked 27 Times in 20 Posts Buy/Sell Rating: 1	Re: spotting Fakes I would look up guides at ebay or ask people on AF because there are obviously more than just a paragraph or two to tell fakes and reals. and if you wanna be expert at telling fakes...KNOW THE REAL ONES INSIDE OUT! :) that is the only way. __________________ 6.12 All Lowest Prices: R&R,Burberry,Bebe,Hollister,TNA,Puma,H&M http://www.mallvibes.com/showthread.php?t=5126

12-19-2007, 12:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
babygrl Mallvibes Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: burnaby POSTS: 794 Thanks: 17 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts Buy/Sell Rating: 0	Re: spotting Fakes hey girls, just a quick question... is there many fake uggs out there?

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